tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4826765136724063244.post413890841685056181..comments2023-11-03T01:07:37.112-07:00Comments on THE BLOGWAY BOYS: A Good Use Of The Veto PenPaul Champagnehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05436813932794112221noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4826765136724063244.post-68654351983847191522007-10-10T11:45:00.000-07:002007-10-10T11:45:00.000-07:00snow ... $83K will buy a lot of doctors visits. Y...snow ... $83K will buy a lot of doctors visits. You are right though, "Universal Health Care" really does sound like a great idea, but it hasn't worked in any of the countrys that it has been tried in. That is why the elite of other countries have been coming to the US when they need major surgery or diagnostic tests for years. The poor and middle class people of those countries are stuck with the mediocre medical care that socialized medicine breeds.<BR/><BR/>terri ... age 25 with a waiver is the current rule. In the new bill in section 112 entitled "The phasing out of coverage for non pregnant adults", it changes the age to 18 effective Oct 1st 2008. Sooooo, the people you are listening to are technically correct but they are being a bit disingenious about the facts. They don't need to be ... this was a bad piece of legislation. I wish people on both the right and the left would stop trying to scare folks and just present their arguments in a factual manner.<BR/><BR/>niki ... my Uncle Pat was one of my male role models. Like my dad, he treated his wife like a queen and worked hard every day of his life.Paul Champagnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05436813932794112221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4826765136724063244.post-44889437533767784602007-10-07T07:53:00.000-07:002007-10-07T07:53:00.000-07:00what a nice uncle lolwhat a nice uncle lolAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4826765136724063244.post-798053295414982982007-10-06T20:26:00.000-07:002007-10-06T20:26:00.000-07:00Paul....you sure about that cut off being 18...all...Paul....<BR/>you sure about that cut off being 18...<BR/>all I keep hearing (especially on Glenn Beck) is the age of 25.<BR/>I just heard it on Fox News today, too.Terri@SteelMagnoliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11784173081245407124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4826765136724063244.post-3275335462084634802007-10-06T16:31:00.000-07:002007-10-06T16:31:00.000-07:00Paul,I am not a smoker and I hate smoking, but I c...Paul,<BR/><BR/>I am not a smoker and I hate smoking, but I certainly respect everyone's right to choose as long as it's legal. And I don't think that they should keep taxing it either. It irritates me how persecuted smokers are. Minnesota just went "smoke free" and I think it's ridiculous.<BR/>I guess I have no idea what they SHOULD actually start taxing instead. My insane "that will never work" idea, and don't take this seriously-- but what if they somehow rolled an extra gov tax into credit card charges/debt--how many americans smoke versus have credit card debt? Yea. I'm betting it's more than 18%. They tax our cell phones and everything else--I'm sure they could find a "legal way" to do it. ;) <BR/><BR/>I am so sick of government programs like this. And if I was making 83k a year, the LAST worry I would have would be how am I going to afford to take my kids to the dr.<BR/><BR/>Socialized medicine is a good idea in theory, but it would never work the way we'd need it to. <BR/> <BR/>--snowsnowelfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06774922203013114354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4826765136724063244.post-69495512258405978402007-10-06T12:00:00.000-07:002007-10-06T12:00:00.000-07:00debbie ... and don't they just love trotting out t...debbie ... and don't they just love trotting out the kiddies?<BR/><BR/>niki ... Yeah, I was working in my Uncle's Deli and would swipe a pack every day. I think he knew, but he never said anything.Paul Champagnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05436813932794112221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4826765136724063244.post-11751166189483315602007-10-06T07:22:00.000-07:002007-10-06T07:22:00.000-07:00duh 12 lolthats cool.duh 12 lol<BR/>thats cool.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4826765136724063244.post-83902193632204386072007-10-05T12:27:00.000-07:002007-10-05T12:27:00.000-07:00Great post. When they trot out the "children" I a...Great post. When they trot out the "children" I always get concerned. I'm all for taking care of children that really need help, but this is not the way to do it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4826765136724063244.post-45651931690486507952007-10-05T10:21:00.000-07:002007-10-05T10:21:00.000-07:00bambi ... looks like we are going to have a resure...bambi ... looks like we are going to have a resurection of Hilary-Care from 1992. Who is going to pay for it you ask? According to all the Democratic candidates it will be the rich. Problem is, their definition of rich is anyone who has a decent job.<BR/><BR/>terri ... link away. Under this bill, the cut-off for coverage will be 18. The children of illegals would only be eligible if they were born in the US (then they would be citizens).<BR/><BR/>chic ... welcome to my little part of the blogosphere. I still have a headache from trying to decypher all those pages.<BR/><BR/>niki ... My lungs are fine, I've been smoking since I was twelve (I wanted to be cool) and my lungs are used to it by now.Paul Champagnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05436813932794112221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4826765136724063244.post-21564375497960480022007-10-04T21:00:00.000-07:002007-10-04T21:00:00.000-07:00two packs a day is a lot loli hate tabacco tax too...two packs a day is a lot lol<BR/>i hate tabacco tax tooo.<BR/>please take care of ur lungs, paul-chan!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4826765136724063244.post-54854107439850408422007-10-04T19:29:00.000-07:002007-10-04T19:29:00.000-07:00I've seen a lot of your comments at some of my fri...I've seen a lot of your comments at some of my friends blogs, so I thought I would hop on over and check it out. I'm glad I did! :-)<BR/><BR/>Great post! Socialized medicine scares the crap out of me and so it should. If Hillary becomes president, (besides seeing half the country fleeing to Canada)we will see even more of this issue. I am so glad Bush veto'd this. It would be a total disaster. Wow, 109 pages! Better you than me! LOLAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4826765136724063244.post-40615592537946388522007-10-04T18:15:00.000-07:002007-10-04T18:15:00.000-07:00Yes, all I've heard was that this will cover the b...Yes, all I've heard was that this will cover the babies and children of illegal aliens ... up to the age of 25 ...<BR/><BR/>You know how I feel about THAT.Terri@SteelMagnoliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11784173081245407124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4826765136724063244.post-42863275712831658272007-10-04T18:12:00.000-07:002007-10-04T18:12:00.000-07:00I totally agree with you on this. I was going to ...I totally agree with you on this.<BR/> <BR/>I was going to write about this, so, if it's okay w/ you.. I'll link to my blog. You did a much better job than I would have done.Terri@SteelMagnoliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11784173081245407124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4826765136724063244.post-72503599857193320142007-10-04T14:45:00.000-07:002007-10-04T14:45:00.000-07:00Lets face it. He did us the first big favor since...Lets face it. He did us the first big favor since 2001. That bill if passed had no way to be successful. Beside who is going to pay for it. <BR/>~rolls eyes~<BR/>This is Hillary at work. Her big push for "socialized medicine". <BR/><BR/>For once I am happy that Bush veto'd this one. We already have an over burdened tax for medicar and the states are busy giving it away to illigal aliens' when our own in Katrina still are struggling to get the FEMA checks and have had to relocate just to get services and medicaid that should have been provided to them.<BR/><BR/>sorry.<BR/><BR/>I am all for socialized medicine, if it can be set up and funded, and managed like an HMO. But, seriously this bill had more problems than when Bill Clinton got caught getting a BJ in the oval office....<BR/>~shakes head~Superstarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09963050341967164929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4826765136724063244.post-28439541026370884392007-10-04T14:40:00.000-07:002007-10-04T14:40:00.000-07:00tapline ... I agree, what we don't need is another...tapline ... I agree, what we don't need is another government program and another tax increase.<BR/><BR/>truth-pain ... I am glad you feel better informed now, just as I am by perusing your blog.<BR/><BR/>american interests ... I didn't actually read every word of the 109 pages, I skimmed past the crap I couldn't understand after trying to read the legalese in the first couple of pages. As far as giving up smoking, not till it either starts affecting my health or I stop enjoying it.<BR/><BR/>eve ... you can find just about every bill ever written on the Library of Congress web site. Of course you can only pull the de-classified versions of some paperwork in the interests of national security. Still, it is a lot more open than other governments ... so I consider myself lucky to be living in the USA.<BR/><BR/>buffalo ... they don't care where the tax money comes from, as long as it comes from a minority of voters.Paul Champagnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05436813932794112221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4826765136724063244.post-75764621779437772142007-10-04T13:59:00.000-07:002007-10-04T13:59:00.000-07:00I don't smoke, but taxing anything that has been p...I don't smoke, but taxing anything that has been proven harmful to health and addictive seems contradictory to the term "Health Care".buffalodickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00663035745368682736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4826765136724063244.post-39560906684470655222007-10-04T13:01:00.000-07:002007-10-04T13:01:00.000-07:00Very well thought out. You're one informed citizen...Very well thought out. You're one informed citizen :-) (where did you get hold of the 109 pages... ? Can everyone see it? Over here, even a copy of the constitution is hard to get, plus it keeps getting changed). Good thing that bill didn't go through after all...!-eve-https://www.blogger.com/profile/01051512896652327719noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4826765136724063244.post-63666637586067893962007-10-04T05:02:00.000-07:002007-10-04T05:02:00.000-07:00Sounds like you are paying too much tax, I mean in...Sounds like you are paying too much tax, I mean indirectly as a smoker. Perhaps you should dump the cigs for red wine.<BR/><BR/>Very informative and I commend you on reading 109 pages, most would not have. Thanks for the summary!Ottavio (Otto) Marasco https://www.blogger.com/profile/07813984603766878752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4826765136724063244.post-36430623066011199222007-10-03T21:28:00.000-07:002007-10-03T21:28:00.000-07:00Paul,What a great expose. Health care, I admit, is...Paul,<BR/>What a great expose. Health care, I admit, is something that does not grab my attention and may not be as "sexy" a topic as other issues of the day, yet it is so important in todays political discourse. <BR/>Thank you, thank you and ...yes, thank you. I am much better informed today, thanks to the information presented.Dardin Sotohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06860312622246919118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4826765136724063244.post-91883023706753323492007-10-03T20:12:00.000-07:002007-10-03T20:12:00.000-07:00Paul,Good post....I really don't know by this is n...Paul,<BR/>Good post....I really don't know by this is not socialized medicine. As it stands now. Medicaid is not accepted in many doctors praceices. What will it be when the cap is 62,000 or 80,000 the recipents of this give away program will wear out the providers, with colds and not feeling well ailments. This will bankrupt the system.....Just what we need another cigarette tax, just when states are outlawing smoking in all public places. Yeah! this makes sense,,,Not.....stay well....Taplinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00161842191574184492noreply@blogger.com